Pick One π΄ Live Discussion π΄ Feb 20th, 2024 -Tue- 16:00 (4pm) CST
Special Guest Ian McCollum @ForgottenWeapons
π [Option 1] Kar98k Zf39 sniper with a mix of 53x sniper (Match 196gr Ss.) and 10x (incendiary βobservationβ ammunition)
π [Option 2] Mosin Nagant PEM Sniper with suppressor (Bramit device) with a mix of 150x decreased velocity ammunition and 150x standard ammunition *Yes we know it’s not a PEM Sniper here, the PU sniper is a stand-in*
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βοΈSCENARIOβοΈ: Winter, 1943, Stalingrad, Russia
– Disclaimer at the end of this situation brief –
Itβs winter 1943, and youβre a German sniper on the Eastern Front. Youβve been sent on a special military operation to deal with a Soviet sniper problem and youβve been in the vicinity doing reconnaissance. Your target is a young Soviet sniper who has been heavily featured as a Soviet hero sniper in their propaganda.
While you can return to German lines, you have been spending weeks in the field at a time, deep behind russian lines to target and eliminate the enemy sniper problem.
So you carefully craft a trap in the department store to destroy him and his observer. Finally from your hide, you see a pair of snipers inbound and you slowly target them. You are able to eliminate one of them while they were displacing, and observed that the other sniper had withdrawn… so hours later, you went to assess your kill.
The deceased soviet sniper has a rifle that you had only heard of: the Mosin Nagant PEM sniper with a Bramit device on the muzzle. A device that decreases the noise signature of the rifleβ¦ and it matches what intelligence reports had been suggesting: that Soviet snipers were very difficult to locate, presumably they were using NKVD’s field manufactured “decreased-velocity” loads for their Mosin snipers with suppressors as well.
You bring the enemy sniperβs rifle with you as a trophy or a useful tool as you begin to exfiltrate with a bandolier of ammunition thatβ¦ the Soviet sniper didnβt need anymore, but at that moment you freeze. The rumble of a Soviet armored column echoes in the streets and as you look over, a shot rings out, barely misses you, and you drop to the ground.
Enemy sniper in the area!
You are now forced to slowly crawl out of the vicinity to safety and can only carry one rifle with associated ammunition back to safety:
π 1, the Kar98k Zf39 sniper with a mix of 53x sniper (Match 196gr Ss.) and 10x (incendiary βobservationβ ammunition)
π 2, the Mosin Nagant PEM Sniper with suppressor (Bramit device) with a mix of 150x decreased velocity ammunition and 150x standard ammunition
Though you survived the sniper shot, it will likely take you 24 hours of βslowβ travel to safely return to German lines.
Both rifles appear to be serviceable, especially with the intelligence reports on the other soviet sniper eliminating german troops with such deadly accuracy, and that your rifle was spared from damage. Which option will you choose to survive and fight another day?
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Disclaimer: This fictional scenario is loosely based on historical events that serve to convey a tactical situation for discussion. This fictional setting, characters and historical examples of this scenario brief do not reflect the views or positions of any commenters and associated entities.
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