{"id":6308,"date":"2016-12-28T07:48:01","date_gmt":"2016-12-28T07:48:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/candrdigital.com\/index.php\/2016\/12\/28\/m1-garand-clip-myths-will-it-ping-see-update-x3-at-bottom-of-description\/"},"modified":"2020-07-22T16:24:14","modified_gmt":"2020-07-22T21:24:14","slug":"m1-garand-clip-myths-will-it-ping-see-update-x3-at-bottom-of-description","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/surplused.com\/index.php\/2016\/12\/28\/m1-garand-clip-myths-will-it-ping-see-update-x3-at-bottom-of-description\/","title":{"rendered":"M1 Garand Clip Myths: Will It Ping? (+ see update x3 at bottom of description)"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"youtubomatic-video-container\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"580\" height=\"380\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/qaL4JHGVQlk?controls=1\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.patreon.com\/blokeontherange\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">http:\/\/www.patreon.com\/blokeontherange<\/a><br \/>\nYes, another M1 Garand fuddlore video!!!<\/p>\n<p>In this one, The Bloke hits himself in the head a lot, and throws metal objects at himself. All in the quest to test as much fuddlore as possible and to answer the age old question of &#8220;Will It Ping&#8221;? Which sounds like a corny 80&#8217;s gameshow&#8230; Based on the M1 Garand and its infamous clip. That apparently got people killed. Or not. Maybe. But anyway. Enough of that nonsense.<\/p>\n<p>This is serious testing of military history, and using the power of the Internet to see if we can actually uncover a primary source on these myths to beat Roy Dunlap&#8217;s book which might even be the originator of this fuddlore. Anyone got any documentation on the supposed Aberdeen Proving Ground test he refers to? I can&#8217;t find any&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>All of the myths tested here (even the most stupid ones) have come up in the comments on one of these videos:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=o2idYNKWGm4&#038;t=1s\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=o2idYNKWGm4&#038;t=1s<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=FbGoU-yx8YA&#038;t=1s&#038;index=4&#038;list=PLnYYU4WyjIANpGb9egJOi-GXshEejvXO4\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=FbGoU-yx8YA&#038;t=1s&#038;index=4&#038;list=PLnYYU4WyjIANpGb9egJOi-GXshEejvXO4<\/a><\/p>\n<p>So we&#8217;ve got throwing the clip at the helmet, onto the receiver of the rifle, tapping it on the helmet, and so on. I don&#8217;t demonstrate throwing it on a hard surface, cos I&#8217;m indoors and on carpet. But it makes the same noise as on the helmet.<\/p>\n<p>You might also awfully like to consider looking in on our facebook page sometime: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/Blokeontherange\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/Blokeontherange\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>UPDATE:<\/p>\n<p>With thanks to Jonathan Ferguson, we have a Korean War Lessons Learned document here: <a href=\"http:\/\/thegca.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/Use-of-Infantry-Weapons-and-Equipment-in-Korea-1952-reduced.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">http:\/\/thegca.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/Use-of-Infantry-Weapons-and-Equipment-in-Korea-1952-reduced.pdf<\/a> no mention of people trying to be tricksy with simulting pings, and far more concern regarding the noise of the safety catch than the normal &#8220;ping&#8221;, which was thought of more as a helpful indicator to reload rather than a risk.<\/p>\n<p>And with thanks to +redjoshman, who writes: &#8220;Of note &#038; interest is that &#8220;Fighting on Guadalcanal&#8221; which was published in 1943 and assembled using interviews from Marines and Soldiers from the battle only lists one problem with the M-1 Rifle, &#8220;Major Ben. J. Northridge, C.O. 2d Battalion, 164th Infantry: &#8216;We like this M1 rifle, but we don&#8217;t like the way the front end shines.'&#8221;(51)<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.globalsecurity.org\/military\/library\/policy\/usmc\/fmfrp\/12-110\/fmfrp12-110.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">http:\/\/www.globalsecurity.org\/military\/library\/policy\/usmc\/fmfrp\/12-110\/fmfrp12-110.pdf<\/a><\/p>\n<p>You&#8217;d think that if the ping was as much as a problem as Dunlap said during the Battle of Guadalcanal that it would get mentioned at least once. The problem is also not mentioned in any of the US Army&#8217;s &#8220;Combat Lessons, Rank and File in Combat: What They Are Doing,  How They Do It&#8221; 1-9:<\/p>\n<p>No.1:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/cgsc.contentdm.oclc.org\/cdm\/singleitem\/collection\/p4013coll8\/id\/2588\/rec\/8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">http:\/\/cgsc.contentdm.oclc.org\/cdm\/singleitem\/collection\/p4013coll8\/id\/2588\/rec\/8<\/a><\/p>\n<p>No.2:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/cgsc.contentdm.oclc.org\/cdm\/singleitem\/collection\/p4013coll8\/id\/3346\/rec\/4\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">http:\/\/cgsc.contentdm.oclc.org\/cdm\/singleitem\/collection\/p4013coll8\/id\/3346\/rec\/4<\/a><\/p>\n<p>No.3:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/cgsc.contentdm.oclc.org\/cdm\/singleitem\/collection\/p4013coll8\/id\/2587\/rec\/7\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">http:\/\/cgsc.contentdm.oclc.org\/cdm\/singleitem\/collection\/p4013coll8\/id\/2587\/rec\/7<\/a><\/p>\n<p>No.4:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/cgsc.contentdm.oclc.org\/cdm\/singleitem\/collection\/p4013coll8\/id\/2736\/rec\/6\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">http:\/\/cgsc.contentdm.oclc.org\/cdm\/singleitem\/collection\/p4013coll8\/id\/2736\/rec\/6<\/a><\/p>\n<p>No.5:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/cgsc.contentdm.oclc.org\/cdm\/singleitem\/collection\/p4013coll8\/id\/3384\/rec\/1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">http:\/\/cgsc.contentdm.oclc.org\/cdm\/singleitem\/collection\/p4013coll8\/id\/3384\/rec\/1<\/a><\/p>\n<p>No.6:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/cgsc.contentdm.oclc.org\/cdm\/singleitem\/collection\/p4013coll8\/id\/2733\/rec\/3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">http:\/\/cgsc.contentdm.oclc.org\/cdm\/singleitem\/collection\/p4013coll8\/id\/2733\/rec\/3<\/a><\/p>\n<p>No.7:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/cgsc.contentdm.oclc.org\/cdm\/singleitem\/collection\/p4013coll8\/id\/2734\/rec\/10\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">http:\/\/cgsc.contentdm.oclc.org\/cdm\/singleitem\/collection\/p4013coll8\/id\/2734\/rec\/10<\/a><\/p>\n<p>No.8:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/cgsc.contentdm.oclc.org\/cdm\/singleitem\/collection\/p4013coll8\/id\/2740\/rec\/11\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">http:\/\/cgsc.contentdm.oclc.org\/cdm\/singleitem\/collection\/p4013coll8\/id\/2740\/rec\/11<\/a><\/p>\n<p>No.9:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/cgsc.contentdm.oclc.org\/cdm\/singleitem\/collection\/p4013coll8\/id\/2737\/rec\/12\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">http:\/\/cgsc.contentdm.oclc.org\/cdm\/singleitem\/collection\/p4013coll8\/id\/2737\/rec\/12<\/a><\/p>\n<p>And this, again, no mention (thanks to +redjoshman again): <a href=\"https:\/\/ia601309.us.archive.org\/23\/items\/LessonsLearnedInCombatBy34thInfantryDivision-nsia\/LessonsLearnedInCombatBy34thInfantryDivision.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/ia601309.us.archive.org\/23\/items\/LessonsLearnedInCombatBy34thInfantryDivision-nsia\/LessonsLearnedInCombatBy34thInfantryDivision.pdf<\/a><\/p>\n<p>And yet another Lessons Learned-type document without a mention: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.fold3.com\/image\/270523952\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.fold3.com\/image\/270523952<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>http:\/\/www.patreon.com\/blokeontherange Yes, another M1 Garand fuddlore video!!! In this one, The Bloke hits himself in the head a lot, and throws metal objects at himself. All in the quest to test as much fuddlore as possible and to answer the age old question of &#8220;Will It Ping&#8221;? Which sounds like a corny 80&#8217;s gameshow&#8230; Based&hellip;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/surplused.com\/index.php\/2016\/12\/28\/m1-garand-clip-myths-will-it-ping-see-update-x3-at-bottom-of-description\/\" rel=\"bookmark\">Read More &raquo;<span class=\"screen-reader-text\">M1 Garand Clip Myths: Will It Ping? 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