{"id":6059,"date":"2017-10-27T05:36:19","date_gmt":"2017-10-27T05:36:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/candrdigital.com\/index.php\/2017\/10\/27\/botr-forgotten-weapons-collaboration-4-annoying-gun-myths\/"},"modified":"2020-07-22T15:16:14","modified_gmt":"2020-07-22T20:16:14","slug":"botr-forgotten-weapons-collaboration-4-annoying-gun-myths","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/surplused.com\/index.php\/2017\/10\/27\/botr-forgotten-weapons-collaboration-4-annoying-gun-myths\/","title":{"rendered":"BotR \/ Forgotten Weapons Collaboration! 4 Annoying Gun Myths"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"youtubomatic-video-container\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"580\" height=\"380\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/E6LrYNZOBHk?controls=1\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p>BotR Patreon: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/BlokeOnTheRange\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/BlokeOnTheRange<\/a><\/p>\n<p>More than a whole hour of Ian and Mike shooting the&#8230; erm&#8230; breeze about four annoyingly persistent, and persistently annoying, gun myths! Complete with whisky, a veritable multitude of digressions and a Lindybeige cameo! <\/p>\n<p>In order to help you navigate and split watching this video up over several settings, here&#8217;s a handy contents guide. Click on the timestamps to jump to that point.<\/p>\n<p>1:33 Topic 1: M1 Garand Ping<br \/>\n6:49 Roy Dunlap: Patient Zero<br \/>\n7:42 M1&#8217;s and BAR&#8217;s in the jungle with corrosive ammo<br \/>\n9:40 The earliest known written reference to the Ping myth<br \/>\n10:09 Aberdeen and plastic clips? Nope.<br \/>\n11:17 By Korea the US military knew about the myth: lessons learned<br \/>\n12:31 Lindybeige cameo!<br \/>\n13:30 Noisy M1 safety catches<\/p>\n<p>16:04 Topic 2: BREN too accurate<br \/>\n17:52 What the British BREN training was aiming for<br \/>\n18:22 Digression on use of equipment, doctrine and manuals<br \/>\n20:02 Back to the point on cones of fire<br \/>\n23:06 Oh no! Dunlap again!<br \/>\n24:57 Dunlap&#8217;s cool anecdotes<br \/>\n27:14 More Whisky&#8230;<br \/>\n28:41 Doctrine on holding the BREN to get accuracy<\/p>\n<p>31:29 Topic 3: Unrealistic WW2 bolt action accuracy<br \/>\n33:48 Some notes on normal 20:20 vision and seeing things to hit them<br \/>\n37:48 Cost effectiveness vs accuracy; timber<br \/>\n39:47 Lee-Enfield accuracy standards, sniper rifles<br \/>\n42:10 Free-floated No.4&#8217;s as a wartime emergency measure; Lend-Lease<br \/>\n43:27 Soldiers prohibited from taking rifles out of their wood<br \/>\n44:41 Summary of the point: accuracy of rifles and skill level of soldiers<br \/>\n47:44 Points about early adoptions of Maxim guns<br \/>\n49:12 Ammunition available for training pre-WW1<br \/>\n50:16 Some points on WW2 German ammo allowances and training<br \/>\n52:12 German 300m Gew 98 accuracy standard<br \/>\n54:30 Bringing the previous point back to sniper rifles<\/p>\n<p>58:40 Topic 4: Mythical versions of the &#8220;Mad Minute&#8221;<br \/>\n59:06 Shout out to Rob of Britishmuzzleloaders<br \/>\n1:00:07 The various tame-ish versions of the myth<br \/>\n1:02:30 The version Ian sees a lot<br \/>\n1:03:10 Snoxall and Wallingford&#8217;s records<br \/>\n1:04:06 What the reality seems to have been<br \/>\n1:04:44 How this kind of thing gets inflated<br \/>\n1:07:02 German &#8220;rapid fire&#8221; exercises for WW2<\/p>\n<p>Ian&#8217;s channel: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/ForgottenWeapons\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/ForgottenWeapons<\/a><br \/>\nLindybeige&#8217;s channel: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/lindybeige\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/lindybeige<\/a><\/p>\n<p>BotR Facebook: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/Blokeontherange\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/Blokeontherange\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Guns mentioned:<br \/>\nMG42, BREN, Lee Enfield, 1903 Springfield, SMLE, Schmidt-Rubin K31, CETME-L, StG 44, MAS-36, Gewehr 98, Steyr M95 Mannlicher straight pull<\/p>\n<p>Many thanks to Ian of Forgotten Weapons for setting this up!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>BotR Patreon: https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/BlokeOnTheRange More than a whole hour of Ian and Mike shooting the&#8230; erm&#8230; breeze about four annoyingly persistent, and persistently annoying, gun myths! 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