{"id":22462,"date":"2023-05-26T07:52:59","date_gmt":"2023-05-26T12:52:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/surplused.com\/index.php\/2023\/05\/26\/optics-on-sturmgewehrs-was-this-really-a-thing\/"},"modified":"2023-05-26T07:52:59","modified_gmt":"2023-05-26T12:52:59","slug":"optics-on-sturmgewehrs-was-this-really-a-thing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/surplused.com\/index.php\/2023\/05\/26\/optics-on-sturmgewehrs-was-this-really-a-thing\/","title":{"rendered":"Optics on Sturmgewehrs: Was This Really A Thing?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"mejs-video-container\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" allow=\"autoplay\" width=\"580\" height=\"380\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/gGl74JFy878?controls=1\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p>THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE TO WIN!<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/go.getenteredtowin.com\/forgottenweapons\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/go.getenteredtowin.com\/forgottenweapons<\/a><\/p>\n<p>DEADLINE to ENTER is TONIGHT 05\/26\/23 @ 11:59pm (PST). <\/p>\n<p>We regularly see the MP43\/44\/StG44 portrayed with an optical sight (a ZF-4). But was this really something that the German Army actually issued? Well, in a word&#8230;no.<\/p>\n<p>The first iteration of the Sturmgewehr, the MKb-42(H), was designed to potentially fit a ZF-41 long eye relief optic on its rear sight tower. A few of these setups were made during testing, but he General Staff dislike the mount and wanted something more solid.<\/p>\n<p>The next iteration was a test in September and October 1943 comparing the new ZF-4 optic on the MP43\/1 and the G43. The same type of mount was used for both rifles, and the MP43\/1 had a stamped mounting rail spot welded to the right side of its receiver. However, it performed quite poorly in testing &#8211; much worse than the G43. The MP43 accuracy was awful (about 11 MOA on average), the optic was useless in bursts, and the scope couldn&#8217;t hold zero during burst fire. A followup test was done in January with ten more Sturmgewehr, and the same basic results were found again. The stamped receiver of the Sturmgewehr was simply not a solid mount for an optic.<\/p>\n<p>That was the end of any possibility for making the MP43 or its later iterations into a marksman&#8217;s rifle. 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Oracle 36270<br \/>Tucson, AZ 85740<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE TO WIN! https:\/\/go.getenteredtowin.com\/forgottenweapons DEADLINE to ENTER is TONIGHT 05\/26\/23 @ 11:59pm (PST). We regularly see the MP43\/44\/StG44 portrayed with an optical sight (a ZF-4). But was this really something that the German Army actually issued? Well, in a word&#8230;no. The first iteration of the Sturmgewehr, the MKb-42(H), was designed to&hellip;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/surplused.com\/index.php\/2023\/05\/26\/optics-on-sturmgewehrs-was-this-really-a-thing\/\" rel=\"bookmark\">Read More &raquo;<span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Optics on Sturmgewehrs: Was This Really A Thing?<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":12,"featured_media":22463,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[89,19],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-22462","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-content","category-video"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/surplused.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22462","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/surplused.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/surplused.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/surplused.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/12"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/surplused.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=22462"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/surplused.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22462\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/surplused.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/22463"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/surplused.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=22462"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/surplused.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=22462"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/surplused.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=22462"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}