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This article is just like my last one but with me slowly writing a book about the subject. I have discovered new findings and new information retaining to the subject. Thank you.<\/p>\n

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Photo by Michael Cenker<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

The Schutztruppengewehr 1898 was mainly used by Schutztruppen of South West Africa and saw limited use in Kameroon and East Africa.<\/i><\/p>\n

Origins of the Schutztruppengewehr 1898<\/b>
\nDuring the Herero and Nama Rebellion of 1904-1908 saw the formation of a volunteer force of 19,000 strong to put down the Herero Rebellion. The new Schutztruppen force was divided into two field regiments. With Battle of Waterberg (Battle of Ohamakari) took place on August 11, 1904 and Nama uprising finally put down in 1907. The two Schutztruppen field regiment returned back to Germany but not with there arms. Joseph Port wrote some letters in the 1950s about the life and the weapons of the Schutztruppe on DSW. According to Port the bolts were bent in 1908 in Windhuk. It was done due to the fact that the rifle would now fit in leather saddle holster much better.<\/p>\n

Schutztruppengewehr 1898 with Landespolizei<\/b>
\nThe Landespolizei was comprised and made above professional police officers from mainland Germany. They were armed mainly with pistols. The 1883 der Revolver and Roth-Sauer Pistol were both in common use, the Luger P08 was also issued sometime after 1912. Rifles and carbines were sometimes carried. Many troops would carry a copy of there Dienstbuch or Service book.
\nHere is an example of Karl F\u00fcchsel (1883-1960) Dienstbuch – Service book.
\nPolizeisergeant F\u00fcchsel owns:
\nS. Gewehr Nr. LP 569
\n(Fabrik Nr 6212, Spandau 1900);
\nRoth-Sauer-Pistole LP 90
\n(Fabrik Nr 396)
\nJuly, 1 1912
\nRecords in “Unter dem Kreuz des S\u00fcdens<\/b>” shows that the Landespolizei had 853 Schutztruppengewehr 1898 issued to them in German SouthWest Africa.<\/p>\n

Schutztruppengewehr 1898 details <\/b>
\nLength:49.20\u2033; Weight: 9.0lbs.; Barrel: 29.13\u2033; Caliber: 7.92x57mm; Rifling: 4-groove, r\/hand; Operation: Turnbolt action; Feed: 5-round staggered column, flush, box magazine; Sights: V-notch rear sight. Lange Visier rear sight adjustable from 200 meters to 2000 meters. Average cost to make: 54DM
\nThe Schutztruppe did not get its arms from the factories but from army stocks. With Spandau being the most common. Along with Erfurt and Mauser Oberndorf.<\/p>\n

Unit disc markings from Southwest Africa:
\n1.F.R.\/2.F.R. = 1.\/2.Feld-Regiment.\u00a0 This unit disbanded after the Herero Rebellion was put down.
\nKS = Kaiserliche Schutztruppe
\nK.S. (no) = DSWA
\nL.P. (no.) = Landespolizei DSWA
\nK.G.P. (no.)=Kaiserliches Gouvernement Polizei and seem to be used in 1905-07.<\/p>\n

1907 updates and Modifications:<\/b>
\nForm the former Schutztruppe gunsmith Joseph Port who was in charge when the bending was done. Joseph Port wrote some letters in the 1950s about the life and the weapons of the Schutztruppe on DSW.
\nAccording to Mister Port the bolt was bent in 1908 in Windhuk.The bolts were bent in after the Herero Rebellion of 1904-07 was over. It was done due to the Schutztruppen mounted units. Acted in a role more like dragoons\/mounted infantry and not true cavalry. The rifle with the bent bolt would now fit the leather saddle holster much better. Port also wrote in one of his letters that the bending was a mistake. The troops didn’t liked the bent bolt on Schutztruppengehr 98. It was much harder and slower to work with then a regular straight G98 bolt. It Port also remembered that the Kaiserliche Schutztruppe didn’t used the new S-Catridge until the end of the Hottentotten war in 1907. Directly after the war they would upgrade their rifles to the new 8×57 IS.<\/p>\n

Lange Visier of the Schutztruppengewehr 1898<\/b>
\nThe Schutztruppengewehr did not retain the original Lange Visier. This was a \u201eVisier 88\u201c, this means a rear sight for the cartridge 88 (round nose). The regular \u201eS Visier\u201c started with 400 m, and it had a rear sight flap of new construction. The Schutztruppengewehr used a particular model of such a flap, now starting with 200 m, as did the Lange Visier, but it was scaled for the cartrige S, and no longer for the cartridge 88. The flaps were changed in 1910. It is commonly believed the 200 m, Lange Visier was kept for close quarter fighting. That maybe true. Given the terrain and geology of German colonies in Africa. From mountainous, densely forested jungles and planes of German East Africa. To the hostile deserts of German SouthWest Africa and Kameroon with its mountains, lowlands and dense rain forest. The 200 m, Lange Visier would have given the Schutztruppe an advantage on close quarter engagements or long range engagements.<\/p>\n

S PATRONE IN THE COLONIES<\/b>
\nIn German East Africa the European [troops] are armed with our modern magazine rifles for S-ammunition…the [Askaris] and Police are in process of being gradually rearmed with S-ammunition capable modern weapons. In Kamerun the Europeans and coloreds soldiers of the Schutztruppe and Police were equipped with the Kar 98 version not specified. Except for the two companies in the Muslim area which are already equipped with Schutztruppengewehr 1898 but for which gradual replacement with Karabiner 98s is proposed. The Police in German New Guinea have in part modern repeaters for S ammunition, in part older weapons which are to be replaced in the forseeable future.
\nTo this I add that there are specimens of Kar 98As (Not Kar 98a) known with unit marks P.T. (no.) = Polizeitruppe Togo; I don’t have any information on whether they are in the Patrone M88 or S Patrone.
\nAmmunition supplied in watertight (soldered shut) cases; artillery ammo loaded and ready to shoot in the case (but not fused). Ammo packed in loads suitable for carriers: 25-30 kg. In the case of 11mm ammo this meant crates of about 500 rnds. and for 8mm 675 rnds; MG and artillery ammo carried on wagons (usually ox-drawn) or horses. I add that crates of unopened 8mm still survived in South Africa as late as the middle 1980s and may still be there.
\nEach rifle that has been updated with the S patronne ammunition. Will have an “S” somewhere between the rear sight and receiver. There will also be an “S” at the very end of the unit mark on the unit disc.<\/p>\n

Number of Schutztruppengewehr 1898 in DSWA. For both Schutztruppen and Landespolizei.<\/b>
\nIn October 1913 there were 10,069 SchutztruppenGewehr 1898 there, of which exactly two thirds were located in the two artillery depots of the province. When night in June of 1915 Schirrmeister Keplin burned 2,000,000 rounds of ammunition and 8,000 rifles. So they wanted to fall into the enemy’s hands.
\nIn October 1913 there were 853 in the hands of the Landespolizei. By the DSWA surrendered To the British 1915. There was 2,069 Schutztruppengewehr 1898’s survived the war in DSWA. How many survive today. Unknown.
\nIt is clear by surviving examples most were made by Spandau and Erfurt from 1899 to 1903. One Schutztruppengewehr 1898 has been found that was made by Mauser Oberndorf.<\/p>\n

Known examples as of 2021.<\/b>
\nColonial Gewehr 1898 used by the Kaiserliche Schutztruppe.
\nMauser Oberndorf <\/b>
\n1899\/WMO\/6735\/<\/b>K.S.10228.S<\/b>(few details-unknown if stock is original to the receiver)<\/p>\n

Spandau 1900<\/b>
\n1900\/Spandau\/?\/K.S. This rifle is also marked. L.P.638<\/b>)
\nGew 98 was found in South African auction house “ClassicArms” Catalog as item number F030) auction of 8\/22\/2020
\n1900\/Spandau\/9450c\/K.S.1623.S <\/b>in a SA collection. (UDF marked)
\n1900\/Spandau\/7478b (KCN report – SA collection, stated “KS”)<\/b>
\n1900\/Spandau\/4977c\/<\/b>K.S.9043.S <\/b>This rifle is also marked 2.F.R.7.81<\/b>
\n1900\/Spandau\/7467i \/K.S.9043<\/b>
\n1900\/Spandau\/?\/K.S.10279<\/b>
\n1900\/Spandau\/?\/K.S.11194<\/b>(This rifle is also marked. L.P.424<\/b>)
\n1900\/Spandau\/5750c\/K.S.9671<\/b>
\n1900\/Spandau\/6507\/K.S.10784<\/b>
\n1900\/Spandau\/?\/K.S. (Gew 98 was found in South African auction house “ClassicArms” Catalog as item number F030) auction of 3\/23\/2019<\/p>\n

Spandau 1901<\/b>
\n1901\/Spandau\/5115\/K.S.
\n1901\/Spandau\/5417\/K.S.1378<\/b>
\n1901\/Spandau\/7028\/K.S.1138<\/b>
\n1901\/Spandau\/168\/K.S.9788.S<\/b>(eGun pictures poor)
\n1901\/Spandau\/1473\/? (report – stated KS)
\n1901\/Spandau\/2346\/K.S.11260<\/b>
\n1901\/Spandau\/2692\/K.S.792.S<\/b>
\n1901\/Spandau\/4141\/K.S. (KCN report – SA collection)
\n1901\/Spandau\/7083\/KS (CB report)
\n1901\/Spandau \/7372\/K.S.4349.S<\/b>\u00a0(SA collection)
\n1901\/Spandau\/5117a \/K.S. 2539.S<\/b>\u00a0(report – SA collection)
\n1901\/Spandau\/5922a\/KS (KCN report – SA collection)
\n1901\/Spandau\/?\/K.S.2177.S<\/b>(serial unknown)
\n1901\/Spandau\/5703\/K.S.
\n1901\/Spandau\/2538\/K.S.
\n1901\/Spandau\/?\/K.S.(Gew 98 was found in South African auction house “ClassicArms” Catalog as item number F179. Auction of 4\/27\/2019)
\n1901\/Spandau\/?\/K.S. (Gew 98 was found in South African auction house “ClassicArms” Catalog as item number F058. Auction of 3\/24\/2018)
\n1901\/Spandau\/?\/K.S. (Gew 98 was found in South African auction house “ClassicArms” Catalog as item number F059. Auction of 3\/24\/2018)
\n1901\/Spandau\/?\/K.S.(Gew 98 was found in South African auction house “ClassicArms” Catalog as item number F127. Auction of 11\/26\/2016)
\n1901\/Spandau\/?\/K.S.(Gew 98 was found in South African auction house “ClassicArms” Catalog as item number F12. Auction of 4\/21\/2012)
\n1901\/Spandau\/?\/K.S.(Gew 98 was found in South African auction house “ClassicArms” Catalog as item number F4. Auction of 11\/26\/2011)<\/p>\n

Spandau 1903<\/b>
\n1903\/Spandau\/1210a\/? (KCN report – SA collection)<\/p>\n

Erfurt 1902<\/b>
\n1902\/Erfurt\/1133\/K.S.4540 (UDF marked)<\/b>
\n1902\/Erfurt\/9925e\/K.S.9881<\/b>
\n1902\/Erfurt\/?\/K.S.
\n1902\/Erfurt\/?\/K.S.(Gew 98 was found in South African auction house “ClassicArms” Catalog as item number F015. Auction of\u00a0 8\/6\/2016)<\/p>\n

Erfurt 1903<\/b>
\n1903\/Erfurt\/?\/K.S. 5072.S<\/b>(UDF marked)<\/b><\/p>\n

Colonial Gew 98 of the Landespolizei:<\/b>
\n1900\/Spandau\/9301\/Sch.A.11 <\/b>(note Sch.A could be Schutzpolizei AnhaltScheinwerfer-Abteilung. there were 2 in DSWA.)
\n1900\/Spandau\/?\/L.P.424<\/b> (This rifle is also marked. K.S.11194<\/b>)
\n1900\/Spandau\/4262c\/L.P.200<\/b>
\n1900\/Spandau\/6174c\/L.P.561 <\/b>(UDF marked)
\n1900\/Spandau\/7538\/L.P.xxx <\/b>(suffix unknown-numbers x’d out. This rifle is also UDF marked)
\n1900\/Spandau\/?\/L.P.638 <\/b>This rifle is also marked. KS.)
\n1900\/Spandau\/6212\/L.P.569 (<\/b>This Gew 98 was used by Karl F\u00fcchsel (1883-1960) Polizeisergeant F\u00fcchsel owns: S. Gewehr Nr. LP 569 (Fabrik Nr 6212, Spandau 1900);July, 1 1912)<\/p>\n

References<\/i>
\nThe German Colonial Troops from 1889 to 1918 by J\u00fcrgen Kraus and Thomes M\u00fcller.
\nMauser Military Rifles of the World fifth Edition by Robert W. D. Ball
\nhttp:\/\/www.germancolonialuniforms.co.uk
\nBy Chris Dale
\nThe Kar98a by Peter Kuck
\nDWJ (Deutsches Waffen Journal) 06\/1984 Page 741 and 742.<\/i>
\nUnter dem Kreuz des S\u00fcdens<\/b>
\nBy Sven Schepp<\/i><\/b>
\nPersonal notes from Craig Brown<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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