{"id":17481,"date":"2021-01-17T09:43:12","date_gmt":"2021-01-17T15:43:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/surplused.com\/?p=17481"},"modified":"2021-01-26T13:59:51","modified_gmt":"2021-01-26T19:59:51","slug":"the-mysterious-dwm-commercial-maxim-gun","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/surplused.com\/index.php\/2021\/01\/17\/the-mysterious-dwm-commercial-maxim-gun\/","title":{"rendered":"The Mysterious DWM commercial Maxim Gun"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>If you know something, please leave your comment. Thanks!<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">After the expiratory of seven years \u201cleash agreement\u201d between DWM and Vickers in 1898, DWM started to take foreign sale orders from such as Russia, Swiss. According to Goldsmith\u2019s research the earliest known DWM Maxim gun sold to China was in 1913. Nevertheless, documents of Imperial China government indicate that China had bought commercial Maxim guns before DWM started to export MG09. At least dozens of DWM commercial Maxim guns were sold to China through 1911.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">At the beginning of 1908, both Sichuan province and Yunnan Province bought dozens of German Maxim guns. These guns were to arm its provincial \u201cNew Army\u201d. During the period, Sichuan ordered 20 German guns through Telge &amp; Company at price of 2600 Marks and Yunnan ordered 18 German Maxim guns alongside 6 Madsen guns through Carlowitz &amp; Co at a \u201chigher price than Sichuan\u2019s order\u201d. Governors-General of Yun\u2019gui reported that Yunnan\u2019s Maxim guns were manufactured by a Germany company \u201cLu fou\u201d, Chinese transliteration of \u201cLoewe\u201d,\u00a0 which China was used to call DWM\/Ludwig Loewe Company. All these guns were requested by China chambering in 6.8 Chinese Mauser cartridge.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Apart from these guns, in the early 1908, the 9 Division stationed in Nanking purchased 8 German machine guns. Along with 4 machine guns borrowed from other provincial troops, these guns were to arm the special machine gun detachment which formed in the middle of the year to participate Taihu Exercise in November. The special machine gun detachment was dismissed later this year and a new regular but smaller size Machine gun detachment attached to 9 Division were assembled, which equipped only 8 guns, including 4 German guns and 4 Japanese guns.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We are lucky to have pictures of the Machine guns of 9 Division\u2019s special machine gun detachment during the Taihu Exercise. British officer, General H.R Davis, then he was a colonel, took several pictures of these \u201c8m\/m Maxim Guns of Northern Army\u201d.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In Imperial army exercise, two opposing forces would be labeled as either North or South, just like we do that in red or blue nowadays. The \u201cNorthern Army\u201d was played by 9 Division.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-17482 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/surplused.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Maxim-8mm-gun-of-Northern-army-China-3197.-Photo-by-Major-H.R.-Davies-300x224.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"224\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In H.R Davis\u2019s photo \uff08above\uff09, the maxim gun in the front has mixed features from both Vickers and DWM gun: It has VSM New Light 1906\u2019s corrugated water jacket but a German style fusee cover and MG08 spade grip handle. Note the blank firing booster which is almost same to the Ruckstossverstarker 08 P used on MG08.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-17506 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/surplused.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/\u65b0\u5efa\u9879\u76ee-2-1-300x201.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"201\" srcset=\"https:\/\/surplused.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/\u65b0\u5efa\u9879\u76ee-2-1-300x201.jpg 300w, https:\/\/surplused.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/\u65b0\u5efa\u9879\u76ee-2-1-1024x687.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/surplused.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/\u65b0\u5efa\u9879\u76ee-2-1-768x515.jpg 768w, https:\/\/surplused.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/\u65b0\u5efa\u9879\u76ee-2-1-1536x1030.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/surplused.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/\u65b0\u5efa\u9879\u76ee-2-1-2048x1373.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/surplused.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/\u65b0\u5efa\u9879\u76ee-2-1-930x620.jpg 930w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The tripod is a hodgepodge of VSM\u2019s and DWM\u2019s features. Here is a comparison of several VSM and DWM tripods. On top right corner is a VSM 1906 tripod, below it is the mysterious DWM tripod, on left is VSM 1904 experimental gun tripod, in the middle is a DWM Argentina model, on bottom is VSM 1901 tripod.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-17483 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/surplused.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Maxim-Guns-Made-in-Berlin-P494-James-A-Irons-300x242.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"242\" srcset=\"https:\/\/surplused.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Maxim-Guns-Made-in-Berlin-P494-James-A-Irons-300x242.jpg 300w, https:\/\/surplused.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Maxim-Guns-Made-in-Berlin-P494-James-A-Irons-1024x825.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/surplused.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Maxim-Guns-Made-in-Berlin-P494-James-A-Irons-768x618.jpg 768w, https:\/\/surplused.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Maxim-Guns-Made-in-Berlin-P494-James-A-Irons-1536x1237.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/surplused.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Maxim-Guns-Made-in-Berlin-P494-James-A-Irons.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Machine gunners with the mysterious Maxim gun. Soldiers in this picture was erroneously recognized as Imperial Japanese by Goldsmith. Imperial Chinese Model 1905 uniform borrowed designs from Japanese uniform but the hat insignias are different. Chinese hat insignia is a larger round dragon emblem comparing to a small five-point star used by Japan. Goldsmith had this picture from James A Irons\u2019 collection, military attache of US Embassy in Japan, the original caption of this picture reads \u201cMaxim Guns made in Berlin\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-17484 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/surplused.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/\u65b0\u5efa\u9879\u76ee-300x239.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"239\" srcset=\"https:\/\/surplused.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/\u65b0\u5efa\u9879\u76ee-300x239.jpg 300w, https:\/\/surplused.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/\u65b0\u5efa\u9879\u76ee-1024x815.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/surplused.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/\u65b0\u5efa\u9879\u76ee-768x611.jpg 768w, https:\/\/surplused.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/\u65b0\u5efa\u9879\u76ee-1536x1222.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/surplused.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/\u65b0\u5efa\u9879\u76ee-2048x1629.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Another picture of the machine gunners in the above picture. Comparing with the last picture, you can see the soldier of enlarged portrait is the person in the center of the above picture. Note the MG08 blank fire booster.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Imperial army has a long history of using Maxim guns since early 1890s. After the boxer rebellion, the newly established land force, so called\u00a0\u201cNew Army\u201d\u00a0started to incorporate a machine gun detachment. In theory each detachment should have four machine gun companies, each has 6 guns. Only a few divisions were funded to organize MG detachment and the size of their MG detachment dependents on how much money were allotted. For instance, 19 Division had a full size 24 guns detachment, while 9 Division had only 8 guns in 1911.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If you know something, please leave your comment. Thanks! After the expiratory of seven years \u201cleash agreement\u201d between DWM and Vickers in 1898, DWM started to take foreign sale orders from such as Russia, Swiss. According to Goldsmith\u2019s research the earliest known DWM Maxim gun sold to China was in 1913. 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